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Incontinence Issues?

January 23rd, 2016

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We got Harley more pain meds that should last us at least another six days so that we can see what she’s doing…

She wasn’t hungry when we tried to tempt her with her medically laced food last night, but after leaving it down we found in the morning she had licked a line straight through the middle of the food where the meds were hidden over night. She came out of “Fort Cat” for the first time in a few days on her own and snuggled me on the mattress this morning, purring away and looking for chin scratches. We felt pretty good about it as we left to take Mushu to his grooming appointment, leaving another plate of food with her next dose in it.

I was a little disheartened when we got home, found her back in Fort Cat and another pee spot on the mattress. She had used the litter box over night… so I’m really not sure what’s going on… I’m kind of chalking it up to the fact that she didn’t get as much of the morning dose as we would have hoped, because typically she eats once per day and she didn’t get far into the bowl where we hid everything… But I’m starting to worry if there are other issues… She hasn’t had a full-on poo since the enema, although she had some slight diarrhea streaks on her little cat bed that she’s been using this morning. She hasn’t been making dents in her dry food, it’s mostly still wet, so I feel like this could be just her system getting going again or maybe her constipation is a reaction to the antibiotics??

The vet also called while we were out to check on her and see how she’s doing… stating that they were curious about why she would need more meds, so of course that freaked me out a little too….

Has anybody had any experience with these issues??? This is the most deflated I’ve felt since before her amputation, and she seemed to be doing so well before the first set of pain meds wore off…. I don’t know if I should be more worried? Peter of course is trying to get me to calm down, stating that she’s had a rough week or two, and she’s still adjusting to this new life… but I’m the worrying sort… :-/ If she wasn’t still eating and looking for cuddles I’d think it was serious… but I just don’t know…. Staples are still coming out on Thursday and we’re done with her antibiotic on Monday… I just keep crossing my fingers and hoping that everything will straighten itself out… I have to keep reminding myself that she’s really only a week and a day or two post-op and that I’m pushing for her to be better immediately when there still may be quite a road ahead….. Any advice or suggestions are really welcome today… I’m feeling really low… πŸ™

Pictures of Fort Cat to follow at some point… forgot they were on Hubby’s phone not mine…

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9 Responses to “Incontinence Issues?”

  1. kazann on January 23, 2016 10:42 pm

    Sorry to hear about the set back. It sounds like you need to talk to the vet again.

    Just to clarify is she on a antibiotic or anti-inflammatory? Anti-inflammatories can help with pain relief.

    One thing to consider is that you need to get the full dose of pain meds into Harley for them to be effective. Since Mona loved the wet food from the vet she was quite happy to gobble it up in her food. If Harley is preferring the wet food to the dry then only feed wet. This won’t last forever. If he’s good and hungry he’ll likely eat the wet food (only give a bit with the pain meds) so you know he’s eaten it.

    Mona was a terror around peeing in the litter box so I can’t help there. One suggestion I have is to give Harley a bit more freedom for short periods of time. How about a short supervised visit with the dog? How about a walk down the hallway? I took Mona out of her room after 2 days to let her sit and look out of the patio door.

    Many times cats who are constipated are dehydrated. The wet food helps give keep your cat hydrated. Cats eating dry food must also drink water. Also exercise helps move bowels. So bring out the toys for some gentle play!

    I hope things improve soon. If you need more input you might want to post your questions on one of the forums because you might get more ideas there.

    Kerren and Tripawd Kitty Mona

  2. msjessicalc on January 24, 2016 2:22 am

    Hi Kerren and Mona!
    Harley is on an antibiotic until Monday to reduce the risk of infection, and considering she has to take it twice a day (by force) we think this has something to do with some of her symptoms (i.e. moods). Harley is also a picky eater, choosing mostly to eat at night (always has) so we’ve taken to picking up everything else at night so we know that if she’s hungry she only will eat the stuff with the meds in it… It worked last night… :-/ The antibiotics alone were a nightmare to administer until I figured out placing the syringe in her cheek… I don’t know how I would pry her jaws open to put a 1/4 tablet of a pain pill in there… :-/
    We want to let Harley out to explore the top floor as soon as possible, but we’re worried about the incontinence. If she happens to somehow bust into our room and under our bed we would never be able to get her out or get under if she messed…. Odd part of the story is that my parents finally determined that it might have been Harley peeing outside the litterbox at their house every once in a while, considering the other cat hasn’t done it in the three weeks that we’ve had Harley with us… adding another layer to the enigma.
    We’ve gotten her to play a few times, even rolling onto her wound without a fuss which we were surprised about… I found this weird twizzler-like cat treat that peels apart and acts like a string that they can attack and then nosh on and she LOVES it. She’s been really good about drinking water though…
    I took your advice and posted my concerns to the forum… Maybe someone has seen this weird change in behaviors before… Hubby keeps telling me not to worry but I feel like I’ve constantly got a knot in my stomach… :-/
    Thanks for keeping up with me… I know this is a lot… Your insight is very appreciated! <3

  3. benny55 on January 24, 2016 2:24 am

    Gosh Harley! Sorry you’re having these issues. That just plain stinks!

    The meds, the antibiotic, the stress of the surgery itself, can all mess with her tummy system.

    Kerren gave some great advice!! Being dehydrated can certainly be a stro g possibility and could cause the issues.
    I like the idea of giving Harley a little freedom and getti g her back to some of her normal routines.
    I would get Harley checked out by the vet just to make sure there isn’t some sort of blockage poop-wise or some sort of bladder infectionctio , etc., otherwise. None of which woukd be anything to worry about and certainly is treatable!

    AND the fact that she is purring and wanting cuddles…all good signs!!

    As far as the vet questioning the reason for pain meds, it simply may have been a way of just inquiring to see if she was having any major issues. I doubt that the vet was coming from a “scared” place! And we do see most kitties here get at least five days worth of pain meds!

    Give yourself credit, okay? This is not an easy journey! And you are smack dab in the middle of recovery and that is an exhausting and scary time! It does get better!!! You’ve already seen signs of some of Harley’s sparkle comimg back! You have had little victories! You have seen improvement!

    The recovery is what we call the roller coaster ride. The ups and downs can drive you whacky!

    Give us an update and stay connected. And don’t hesitate to call your vet if you need some reassurance.

    And Peter ks exactly right…it has been a rough week for Harley and it will get better!

    Hugs to all!

    Sally and Alumni Happy Hannah and Merry Myrtle and Frankie too!

  4. benny55 on January 24, 2016 2:29 am

    In between me trying to post my reply and getting booted off, I see you nave already responded.

    So the peeing has most likely happened before the amputation. Interesting. Could just be some sort of behavior thing.

    Remember, Harley can pick up on your energy so stay strong and confident! You are doing a GREAT job! And your Peter is a great Team Leader for you and Harley! πŸ™‚

  5. msjessicalc on January 24, 2016 2:31 am

    Thanks Sally and Friends!
    If I haven’t seen a poop by tomorrow I’m going to call again on Monday… I went up and checked and she ate enough dry food to see the bottom of the bowl which she hasn’t done in a while… so maybe we’ll see some movement tomorrow… This poor baby is such a warrior… Too bad Mum is such a worrier… :-/
    Peter at least speaks from experience… after he broke his leg and needed major surgery and whatnot he had some of the *ahem* same issues which is why he’s not overly concerned… *sigh*
    Thanks again for your kind words! I don’t know how I’d be doing this without my happy little “inbox” blips every now and then… Hubby keeps telling me if I can handle this then parenthood should be a breeze… We shall see…

  6. jerry on January 25, 2016 6:35 pm

    Totally know how hard it is not to worry, and I hate to say it, but Hubby is right. I would agree that you are very early on in this journey. And you answered your own question when you said:

    “I have to keep reminding myself that she’s really only a week and a day or two post-op and that I’m pushing for her to be better immediately when there still may be quite a road ahead”

    Here’s a tip for you: don’t hide those pills in her food. Animals are too smart for that, and they will go on hunger strikes when their food smells like things they hate. Many meds give off odors that we can’t smell, and some taste awful. Hate to say it but you may need to dose her by hand. I know, not fun, but remember this is only temporary and things WILL get better.

    Breathe. You CAN get through this and life will be so much better in a bit. Just wait!

  7. msjessicalc on January 26, 2016 2:17 am

    Thanks jerry!

    They gave us a new liquid pain med at the emergency vet last night and it’s such a small dose that compared to the antibiotic we’ve been squirting down her throat this is a synch! Hoping to see some improvement over the next few days, although today when she saw me coming with the towel and the meds she did try to run away! Much better than the last few days where I’ve just dragged her towel/blanket toward me and done what I had to do! I’d rather she run!! Means she’s feeling okay!!

    Harley is pretty slick and figured out my trick, I even tried dipping her new favorite treat thing in it and now she glares at me when I try to give it to her (she eats it later when I’m not in the vicinity).

    After visiting the emergency vet and hearing that otherwise everything is normal and there’s no sign of obstruction or infection I’ve felt more calm than the last week or so. I’ve been a pent up ball of anxiety for a while…. Peter actually told me if I cried one more time he would go insane… Got pretty rough around here… Crossing my fingers that our girl will be feeling better soon!

  8. Jessica on January 26, 2016 8:22 pm

    I haven’t checked in on you guys lately, I’m sorry it got rough! Sam had pain medicine the whole time she had stitches in – a week and a half. The vet was like yeah if she needs more come get it, very chill about it. I’m not sure why your vet is so hesitant on that.

    Sam also does not always use the litter box. But for her, the other cat in the house has very…acidic..pee. I think she’s sensitive. For Harley, maybe her peeing outside the box before her surgery was because she was in pain. It might have hurt to get into the box. She’s a fighter, though, so she’ll be alright. (Sam? I’m resigned to her never using the box 100% of the time.)

  9. msjessicalc on January 26, 2016 11:46 pm

    You could be right Jessica… today there was nothing except a pee in the box! So hopefully this is a step in the right direction for her! She looks much better as far as mood today too, less tired and she actually came out from under Fort Cat to snuggle us! πŸ™‚ I can live with her not using the box all the time… just knowing she’s not in pain as the reasoning is a relief!

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